But We Loved

As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down.

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  • RowdyDog!
    Gonna Miss You 😢
    Hi Jordan my name is Bob. I listened to your final pod tonight and I am so sad that you are not going to be back. Your story almost mirrors mine. I grew up in the West during the 60s and 70s in the church knowing that I was attracted to men older than I and the same age as I. My first experience was with my slightly older best friend and I understood what I needed. I stayed closeted so I would not disappoint my family and church friends. In my 30s I finally came out to myself and had some short term relationships. In my late 60s now I’m still single and will probably be for the rest of my life. I’m going to miss your sweet voice and honestly. Thanks for speaking to me in your quiet way. I started reading the Greatest Little Boy…. recently. Wow! it really mirrors my life as well. Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences with me and so many others. Bye my friend 😭
  • Alto-ist
    Noble Cause, Problematic Episode Titles
    Jordan Gonsalves’ motivation for creating this podcast is a noble one: to shed light on the incredible courage and hard work of LGBTQIA+ activists over decades to change public perception of our community and to demand equitable treatment. As he shares in his introductory comments for each podcast, his intention is to speak back to his own internalized homophobic shame by bearing witness to the incredible contributions of queer people who have, in many cases, given their lives to change the future for the next generation. However, the titles Gonsalves has chosen for some of the episodes of this podcast are problematic and should be addressed. For example, the title “The Activist Responsible for Life-Saving AIDS Drugs” is deeply troubling for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that previous media has already created a hero narrative around the podcasts’ interviewee that does not reflect the reality of the time, the collective efforts of hundreds of people, or the outcome. It might be a palatable story with an appealing hero, but (as the research of the likes of Sarah Schulman, found in her groundbreaking book, Let the Record Show) it is just not true, and conveniently ignores the extraordinary contributions of people of color and women. Another episode, entitled “The History of Gay Cruising,” is, in fact the reflections of one man who was driven to cruise out of shame, NOT a look at the history of gay cruising. This needs to be addressed and remedied going forward. I listen to this podcast with a deeper level of skepticism than I might have because of it, and rate it 3 out of 5 stars.
  • SilverKnox
    Heartwarming History
    I just discovered this beautiful gay history podcast. The host is a wonderful interviewer & his subjects are fascinating. 👍👍
  • SFFACS
    A Truly Fantastic Podcast
    As a queer man who remained deeply closeted during the early days of the AIDS crisis due to fear I was deeply moved by the show with Bill Glen (A Gay Man Called to be a Priest) this is a story every member of our community needs to hear. Jordan is producing amazing content that is providing a critical connection between generations.
  • MyFeedback2U
    Beautiful share history & insights
    Fortunate to have come across this soulful telling of our shared gay experience. I am old enough to remember a time when i truly thought i was the only gay person on earth—-and i lived in a metropolitan area. Those early years were painful and isolating. I am still recovering from that sense of isolation these many years later, but thriving nonetheless. Young people don’t appreciate how far we have come. I hope these stories provide context. Each generation has a responsibility on the shoulders of past. Translated: our Tran brothers and sisters need support. Lots of it!
  • JPUphl
    Such an interesting show
    Just found this podcast and I am enjoying every minute.
  • dayziegarcia
    Stupid
    Stop being a victim and using being gay as you’re only personally trait.
  • funier
    Thank you!
    Congratulations on your show. You are doing a great job and keep it up. You’re doing good and important work.
  • GatsbyNYC
    Grow up
    Please stop asking everyone how it FELT! How did it feel when your partner died? How did it feel when your father died? How do you think it felt? The host should get over his obsession with feelings and come up with a more grown-up interview style.
  • robot-o
    Valuable oral histories
    I’ve been listening in the Northern Mariana Islands where I am from, and where our oral traditions are still very much preferred devices for transmission and preservation of information. These powerful accounts have been so inspiring to reflect on as we navigate our own journey to shed the stigmas taught by the nations who have colonized our indigenous peoples and our neighbors. And hearing these accounts in the voices of the people who lived them is absolutely powerful.
  • dannyboy69:)
    Had me in tears 🩵
    Such an amazing podcast with personal and touching queer stories. Each episode has brought me to tears at least one. Jordan does a great job interviewing. Can’t wait for more episodes 🩵
  • nikausxx
    Gorgeous moving storytelling!
    Jordans interviews are so engaging to listen to and I love the way he frames these important stories with kindness and curiosity. This podcast is necessary, it makes space for these stories to be passed on.
  • Ronald1128
    So Beautiful!
    A beautiful podcast exploring much needed conversations with queer elders. I’ve taken so much away from this podcast already. The host is lovely and asks such insightful and thought provoking questions. Definitely take a listen!
  • DaddysNickyBoy
    Stonewall
    Respectful. I love how Jordan was respectful to the queens of Stonewall. Especially, he was respectful to the man he was he interviewing.
  • AT015
    Beautiful storytelling
    I smiled often listening to the interviews. Jordan has a great ability to make guests comfortable and showcase their full personality. Can’t wait for more!
  • Mutecalm
    Beautiful concept and show
    Jordan is such a great storyteller and empathetic interviewer. These cross-generational conversations about our LGBTQ history and culture are so valuable. Love this project and can’t wait to hear more!
  • GuyinGreen27
    Things I’ve never thought about
    I wish I had more queer elders to speak to. This podcast really fills a void for me. Thank you
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