Curt and Chris have one goal - to make you better at running a camp, be it overnight or day. These guys bring a wealth of knowledge and provide guests and resources that are thought provoking and timely. Their passion in this field is evident and their podcast is incredible.

I’ve gotten a lot out of this podcast! Appreciate the content, opinions, and the well balanced conversation and format!

Fantastic content. As a camp director lacking ideas for creative programming, these guys are a lifesaver. These guys are the real deal in the trenches with us.

Love this podcast! Such great ideas and fun to listen to.

Can’t believe that I am just now discovering this podcast. At the end of each episode I share it with a member of my camp staff in charge of that particular program. It’s been a great resource for new ideas!